Thursday, December 05, 2013

Nigella's coke, Tom's boyfriend and kidnapped nuns

Somewhere around Maaloula, Syria, 12 nuns are cowering in fear of their Islamist kidnappers. They may be being beaten, raped or beheaded one by one. But who cares? We've got Nigella Lawson's coke habit to tickle our itching ears.

Mother Superior Pelagia Sayyaf and 11 of her sisters were abducted at gunpoint from St Tecla Orthodox monastery and taken hostage by an army of "rebels", along with the orphans who were being fostered and cared for. But who cares? We've got the identity of Tom Daley's handsome new boyfriend to fantasise about.

The international community and world governments are indifferent to the plight of the nuns of the St Tecla convent.

And so are most people in Britain.

Churches, monasteries and convents throughout Syria are being razed, desecrated and pillaged. Maaloula is being cleansed of Christians. But who cares?

We've got celebrity drugs and gay sex to gossip about.

Of course, if these were gays and lesbians being kidnapped, beaten and tortured by Islamists, we'd soon have celebrity declamations and government condemnation. There'd be Twitter campaigns and Facebook pages dedicated to their freedom, and the media would full of Stephen Fry demanding justice.

But these are only nuns.

And no one really gives a shit about Christians.

We've got Nigella's coke and Tom's boyfriend to titillate us.

71 Comments:

Blogger William Lewis said...

YG

Good point, well made.

Nigella's coke inanities and Tom's sexual confusion were front page of our BBC "news" web-site. Why oh why are we being forced to subsidise a vehicle for celebrity gossip?

5 December 2013 10:30  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Happy Jack says the world is truly going mad and he shares His Grace's sorrow and anger about all this.

5 December 2013 10:32  
Blogger English Pensioner said...

Which is essentially why I gave up buying a daily newspaper. Probably about 1% of the content is news that I would be interested in, so it was a total waste of money.

5 December 2013 10:38  
Blogger John Wrake said...

I suggest that giving up buying a newspaper is not the answer, since it is likely to reduce the opportunity of even pathetic newspapers to question what the government is up to. Bad as they are, they are still just free not to toe the government line.

lay the blame for what is considered newsworthy where it belongs - with the treasonous politicians who have broken their oaths, encouraged wrongdoing, denied the safeguards given us under our historic constitution, destroyed our freedom and replaced a first class education system with 'bread and circuses'.

Try the sources of news on the web, like the U K Column, if newspapers disgust you.

John Wrake.

5 December 2013 10:58  
Blogger Paul Lowe said...

I was pondering recently the ills of modern society when I recalled the words of Fr David Williamson in a homily he gave some years ago. He pointed out that God's gifts are very powerful, and that they can manifest their power in ways that are positive or negative. We choose how those gifts are used.

Modern technology makes it possible for us to capture experiences and share them with the world in seconds. The sadness is that we choose to share trivia in preference to more serious matters, and the media are as guilty of this as anyone. We shouldn't be surprised at this - news is a business, and gossip sells.

However, our wired-up world has the potential for great good, making us aware almost instantly of events far away, as with the typhoon in the Philippines, which prompted such an outpouring of generosity.

Your Grace may feel like a voice crying in the wilderness, but I for one am grateful that you have used this blog to draw to my attention the plight of the nuns in Syria. I can at least pray for them, while also praying that those who control our media are moved to report the dangers faced by many Christians in the world today.

5 December 2013 11:00  
Blogger Steve Buckley said...

But surely, Nigella is a victim of 'intimate terrorism' - she must feel the same pain as a Syrian nun. Poor cow.

5 December 2013 11:00  
Blogger Uncle Brian said...

One of Your Grace's earlier posts on thse horrors, under the title "Maaloula is the wound of Christ", appeared on 12 Sept., just at the time when Obama was washing his hands of Syria and inviting Putin to take over full reponsibility. At the time, I thought that change meant that the Christians of Syria might be able to look forward to some improvement. But today's post seems to suggest that their plight is as terrible as ever. Is there anything any of us can do?

5 December 2013 11:20  
Blogger Corrigan said...

What Cranmer said.

You know you're getting old when you start agreeing with Peter Hitchens, but dammit, the cantankerous old badger pretty much nailed it when he said, "...'diversity' means that no religion can be treated as more valid than any other, so all faiths must be treated with respect, and consequently, Christianity, precisely because it was previously established, has to suffer a shrunken, diminished status, and forced to queue up, along with the pagans, the wiccans, the Jains and the Buddhists. A small exception tends to be made for Muslims, but that's because the New Establishment is scared stiff of them

5 December 2013 11:36  
Blogger David Hussell said...

I share the feelings expressed by His Grace and by others on this blog.

The BBC is awful, far removed now from the aims of Lord Reith who was looking in the right direction. Moreover it is strongly anti-Christian now in my opinion. In naive hope, last night I switched on a BBC2 program on British historic pilgrim routes, but after two minutes I had to switch it off. Use of the usual trick to slur Christianity jumped out at me, it was so obvious. They were interviewing a tiny protest group in Northern Ireland, pushing their intolerant line against more Catholic services, how sad. The program may have continued to redress this "imbalance", but I very much doubt that. Is it any wonder that with such broadcasting Churches get a bad press ? And so it goes on informing people about social gossip but ignoring the suffering of millions.

We are a dysfunctional country now I believe.

Uncle Brian's question (last sentence) is very pertinent and I would be interested in any answers.

5 December 2013 11:46  
Blogger Ezekiel Lamb said...

In the last days people will become lovers of their own selves,you could always throw some money at the BBC

5 December 2013 12:21  
Blogger John Thomas said...

"Why oh why are we being forced to subsidise a vehicle [the BBC]for celebrity gossip?" (William Lewis, here). - Obvious! - they want to keep our minds, thoughts, and moral indignation off the subject of persecution of Christians, and the real nature of Islam, and firmly on trivia "Why ... subsidcise"? - oh, they need the money, of course; what better than use ours.

5 December 2013 12:26  
Blogger Len said...

We live in a surreal World where the cult of 'celebrity' reigns supreme.
The 'facebook reality' where one hangs on what celebrities are doing and saying.Celebrities have become 'idols' which the people give what amounts to worship in the place of the God many have rejected.
As the World spirals out of control many are indulging in meaningless activities much as was encapsulated in the musical'Cabaret' .

Many World events are not even mentioned in the UK news one has to search other news channels if one wants a glimpse of reality.
So the public are fed a huge amount of trivia but now what has happened to Drummer Rigby has happened on our UK Streets perhaps the public awareness level will be raised?.

5 December 2013 13:15  
Blogger Owl said...

An excellent and timely reminder YG.

Corrigan, you make a very good point.

"A small exception tends to be made for Muslims, but that's because the New Establishment is scared stiff of them"

I just wonder if the "establishment" is scared of them or just using them to destroy our culture.

As our politicians (LibLabCon) are just muppets, it is also time to ponder who are this "new establishment".

You know, the shadowy ones pulling the strings.

5 December 2013 13:43  
Blogger Malthebof said...

It would be a change if the Archbishop of Canterbury made some loud public comment about the plight of fellow Christins,but his silence about this is thunderous.

5 December 2013 14:14  
Blogger Uncle Brian said...

Malthebof

It would certainly be a change, but more easily said than done, perhaps.

What they say about the Vatican may be equally true of Lambeth Palace. When the Pope says something critical of Israel, he gets a stiff letter from the Israeli ambassador. When he says something critical of Islam, he gets a few churches burnt down and priests and nuns murdered.

5 December 2013 14:34  
Blogger Manfarang said...

There isn't and never was much foreign news in British newspapers.

5 December 2013 14:37  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Owl @ 13:43

I'd say the Establishment initially wanted to use them, but is now scared stiff of them.

Uncle Brian's post above illustrates why.

5 December 2013 14:41  
Blogger Mark Chambers said...

I fear the literal debt owed to the middle east by the west means we are now their proxy for Saudi Arabia's finance of Islamic Jihad on a truly global scale. Christianity has no place in their future, yet the West fiddles whilst Christendom burns.

5 December 2013 14:53  
Blogger Hannah said...

I think the government would prefer the media to focus on these stories for a good reason. If the media focused on the plight of Syrian Christians,it would have to explain why it is supporting the Syrian Opposition as the only voice of Syria's people. You know the group which includes these Jihadists killing these Syrian Christians. That and the fact that Cameron wanted to go to war on their side in the summer,until Parliament told him to go hang, would leave too much uncomfortable explaining to do. A bit like the recent Neville Chamberlain type acts of the west towards Iran.

5 December 2013 14:55  
Blogger Gerry Lynch said...

Well, I'm one pinko liberal gay rights activist who has been trying to raise the plight of Syria's Christians for some months now with the limited means at my disposal.

Some secular lefties engage, some liberal Christians engage, some conservative Christians engage. Most, of all stripes, don't. I've written to politicians who wear their conservative Christianity on their sleeves (and they do exist on the Tory backbenches) and in the main been blanked with anodyne holding replies.

I don't think anybody in the West gets to score tribal political points out of what is happening to Middle East Christians at the minute and I'm pretty disgusted at those who try.

So I'm praying, praying for the nuns and orphans because I'm not sure that there's much else I can do and not sure that anyone can help but God.

And I'm praying for gays and lesbians living in rebel-held Syria because, despite what you say, they are being killed, as they have been in Iraq, often in the most horrible fashion, as they were during the period when the Brotherhood ran Egypt. When groups like Al-Nusra or ISI take over an area they hunt down gays using the internet and torture them to death.

Political point scoring does nothing to save anyone. I would suggest people sign the Open Doors Save Syria petition, write to their MP, and write to the Foreign Office. If enough people do, it might just make enough of a difference to save somebody's life.

5 December 2013 14:55  
Blogger gentlemind said...

There is gossip (giving importance to those things that do not matter), and there is the realisation that some apparently small things have enormous consequences.

5 December 2013 15:25  
Blogger Dreadnaught said...

Nearly put my foot through the TV when yet again Nigella-soddin-Lawson's domestic strife made the headline leading item.

The BBC's sense of news reporting is indeed dire.

5 December 2013 15:32  
Blogger Dreadnaught said...

You know you're getting old when you start agreeing with Corrigan.

5 December 2013 15:34  
Blogger john in cheshire said...

YG, I hope in all of the outrage expressed in the comments, at least some of us will find the time to pray for these poor unfortunate women and their young charges. The terror that they are all experiencing is beyond my comprehension and I also pray to God that neither I nor any of my family ever have to suffer as these nuns are undoubtedly suffering. May God help them all.

5 December 2013 16:57  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

YG makes a good point. I'm sick of hearing about Nigella and her dodgy relationship saga, and we didn't need to have Tom Daley's sex life revelations fed to us on every news channel all day and night.

The Daily Mail did report on the nuns albeit a small article on 2nd December.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2517013/Nuns-surrounded-Syrian-village-Assad-implicated-war-crimes.html

I think the news channels should have to all report different stories instead of just their own slightly different take on the same stories.

5 December 2013 17:22  
Blogger Nick said...

Short but to the point YG. Our western media and culture are putrid with triviality and hypocrisy

5 December 2013 17:27  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Perhaps if it were better known that the nuns are in fact lesbians, admit to occasional cocaine use and worship before a picture of Tom Daley….

5 December 2013 17:53  
Blogger The PrangWizard of England said...

I'd just put in a word for the couple of dozen MPs who debated the persecution of Christians the other day in the House of Commons. There are still some who are prepared to raise the issue and protest.
And just now I've seen a report on Russia Today about the perilous position these nuns. It seems we have to look abroad for some decent and courageous reporting. Naturally I object to much of their other output.

5 December 2013 18:21  
Blogger Phil Roberts said...

Inspector

I laughed and laughed.

Then realised....

You are dead right.

Phil

5 December 2013 18:21  
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5 December 2013 18:21  
Blogger James said...

Our western media and culture are putrid with triviality

...like the two flat-earthers who went to the Supreme Court to defend their right to discriminate against gays?

5 December 2013 18:26  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Good Grief !

Not James from Pink News comments ?

Do remember this man to your chums over there...

5 December 2013 18:48  
Blogger Nick said...

I think that much of what is called "news" is more about entertainment than information. The masses mostly do not want to be fed facts and the media recognises this. So it feeds its audience with a mulch of gossip and irrelevant information. Those who want real information have to go looking for it.

I suspect that if the MSM reported more stories about REAL persecution, rather than the whinging of professional offence-takers, they would appeal to those who can still find some compassion in their hearts when confronted with some of the true horrors going on in the world.

5 December 2013 19:36  
Blogger bluedog said...

Hannah @ 14.55 says, 'A bit like the recent Neville Chamberlain type acts of the west towards Iran.'

Now that's an unkind analogy and quite probably wrong.

Like Turkey and Indonesia, Iran is a powerful non-Arab Muslim state, and the worst excesses of Islam come from ground-zero in Saudi Arabia. In the view of this communicant, anything the West can do to dilute and neutralise the influence of the Saudis is a positive. The US is being clever here, and seems to have re-appraised its relationship with the Saudis, reducing their importance in the process. In particular, the Iranians need to be kept on side post withdrawal from Afghanistan, which is itself a land-bridge to China. It therefore seems likely that by establishing formal diplomatic and trade ties with Iran it becomes easier to keep the Chinese out of the northern littoral of the Persian Gulf. Remember, the Chinese are out to overturn all Western positions and seek to re-arrange things on their terms. The survival of the CCP regime and many family fortunes depend on it.

In the long term this rapprochement with Iran is better for Israel than a potentially failed attack on Iranian nukes that would only compound the risks.

5 December 2013 19:46  
Blogger Hannah said...

Hello Bluedog,

Iran does not need or require nuclear power as it is gushing with bountiful supplies of crude oil and natural gas. If Iran played her cards right she could use this wealth in the same way that Norway has... have a stonking pension sovereign wealth fund of trillions, live the good life and be a nice part of the international 'community', but she won't.

Why? Because the Iranian regime is ruled by fanatics, who wish to crush Israel' the lessor Satan' and 'wipe Israel off the map', or the only country on earth who wants to take off where Hitler started with a second holocaust.. Well Israel and the diaspora of Jews across the world have other ideas of allowing a manic regime to do as such.

As for Saudi Arabia, like that regime or not- and I have no particular love of it- as a realist I realize that she is still officially an ally of the west and there have been multiple arms deals with that country and ours. Except they now feel they've been left to the wolves and will probably try and get nuclear weapons from Pakistan. Never mind what Israel will do, worry about what the Saudis will do...

5 December 2013 20:03  
Blogger Naomi King said...

Well, what's wrong with Christian persecution?

US Senators McCain and Graham are all for it. So is the president of the US. Many government officials support Al Qaeda-linked terrorists because, they say, these people oppose President Assad, and they claim the civil war in Syria is all his fault. It has nothing to do with the hordes of foreign invaders, who just happen to be Muslims, with sophisticated weapons supplied by the US.

The fact is, Assad is the last leader in the Middle East who supports indigenous Christians.

Is that fact the main reason Western leaders hate him?

5 December 2013 20:14  
Blogger bluedog said...

Hannah @ 20.03, sometimes it pays to look at things from a fresh perspective. If we started again today, bearing in mind the Saudis aggressive proselytisation of Wahhabi Islam, would we want them as our new best friends? Probably not. The Saudis are promoting a civilizational threat to the West, we have to be bright enough to recognise that fact and respond accordingly.

If the Israelis have an implicit alliance with the Saudis, why would the Saudis need nukes from Pakistan? The weapons may equally be available from Israel. Not a palatable thought, but one that cannot be completely dismissed.

5 December 2013 20:35  
Blogger Nick said...

Naomi

According to the DT yesterday, there are about 300 British citizens fighting alongside Al Qaeda in Syria. That's enough to make even our brain-dead multi-culti politicians worry about these people coming "home" fully trained, indoctrinated, and ready to carry out terrorist attacks in Britain. Nobody should imagine that any sort of political correctness will protect them against that kind of evil.

5 December 2013 20:42  
Blogger Roy said...

Blogger Manfarang said...

There isn't and never was much foreign news in British newspapers.

That is only partly true. There are huge tracts of the world, including many European and Commonwealth countries, where nothing ever happens judging by the lack of interest displayed by British newspapers.

On the other hand the British press and television display an obsessive interest in anything involving the United States. Every time Obama opens his mouth, even if only to burp, the BBC seems to think it is newsworthy.

5 December 2013 21:05  
Blogger Hannah said...

Hi Bluedog,

I am thinking of the best way to deal with this for Israel and the west, as well as being 'realist', mixture of Churchill, Bismark and Golda Meir ....

So-

I have no love for the Saudi regime and I don't think that there is any kind of alliance between Saudi and Israel, just a mutual interest to face one foe at a time;Iran is quite specific about wanting to crush Israel, so is a clear and present danger..

That does not translate into Israel giving the Saudis nukes. Besides which Saudi 'credibility' wouldn't last long if it were found out that they were getting nukes from the 'Zionists'. It is more logical for them to approach Pakistan a fellow Shia state who does have nuclear weapons and whose nuclear programme has been funded no this quid pro quo basis (there was a convincing article by Mark Urban on newsnight a while back on this subject).

The only thing Israel has in common with Saudi Arabia is the same thing the allies had in defeating Nazi Germany and to me this is no different, if the diplomacy in the region was to change,in that once the Fascists were crushed, it was inevitable and logically that the Soviet Union had to be dealt with by containment in the 'cold war'. However it would be better if the Saudis decided to strike the Iranians with conventional weapons on her own accord, rather than waiting on Israel to 'do the dirty work' or for them to get nukes.

Or to put it another way as Kisinger said about the Iran-Iraq war 'it is a pity they can't both loose'. This is best outcome for Israel and the west in the current Islamic civil war. But the best outcome cannot be left to itself.

I am of course often to alternative options and to be convinced of your position by a convincing argument.

5 December 2013 21:17  
Blogger Corrigan said...

I just hate the way Zionists use phrases like "Israel and the west"; it's possible to take away the impression that the two are part of the same unit.

5 December 2013 22:11  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Corrigan, as Israel is not under the filth that is Islam, don’t you think it suitable for them to align themselves to the West ?

5 December 2013 22:30  
Blogger Hannah said...

Hello Corrigan,

Am I boverred with your opinion? Answer : NO.

5 December 2013 22:46  
Blogger Owl said...

Oh dear Corrigan,

Of course Israel and the west are not part of the same unit. The Israelies are far too intelligent as you keep proving.

5 December 2013 23:06  
Blogger hellen pollen said...

Please somebody start the petition to free nuns, I ve tried unsucsesfully. We need to start the petition asap. They could be killed, raped or beheaded

6 December 2013 00:01  
Blogger Ivan said...


Among some pitiful Christians, there seem to hover a deluded hope, that any day now the paladins would be setting out from Tel Aviv to rescue the beleaguered Christians. I suppose they expect this, on account of Israel being part of the West and solicitous of Christians. The record shows that the Israeli government and the majority in that state, are at best indifferent to the fate of Christians. (I don't blame them for it, they have a right to their likes and dislikes.) In truth such Shiite "terrorist" organisations as Hizballah have done more for the safety of Christians than people have a right to expect.

6 December 2013 02:28  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Not really, Inspector. Most Israelis are as contemptuous of the west as the jihadis are; as far as they are concerned, the west is analagous to farm animals. You may milk them like cows, or shear them like sheep, and if necessary slaughter them for their meat, but you don't consider yourself to be a part of what they would consider (quite rightly, as it happens) a degraded culture. You merely use them.

6 December 2013 11:20  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...



You have a cruel tongue Corrigan. One isn’t suggesting we get into bed with them – just be thankful they are a bastion against Islam...

6 December 2013 18:06  
Blogger Meredith Jonathan Pussy said...

Inspector said to Corrigan,

'One isn’t suggesting we get into bed with them'. Clearly never read this then-

http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2011/12/the-50-hottest-jewish-women#2


God bless Israel and the Jewish people!

6 December 2013 18:43  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Bastion against Islam, Inspector? Should we not be our own bastion? Truth be told, half the crap we have to put up with from Islam is incited by these carpet-baggers.

6 December 2013 19:42  
Blogger bluedog said...

Hannah @ 21.17, let's ignore Corrigan the incorrigible anti-Semite.

Israel's position is currently excellent as two potential threats have self-neutralised; Syria and Egypt. But did Bibi see the Iran shift coming? Probably not. There does seem to be a more than tacit accord between the Israelis and the Saudis. The irony implicit in the keeper of the holy places being sheltered by the nuclear umbrella of the Jewish state would not be appreciated at the Haj. One can see the logic of limited collusion and as you say, the Iranians are a common enemy. Whether one can trust Iran's recent silence about the Zionist entity remains to be seen, but the political demise of A-jad has lead to a better atmosphere. You really need to analyse the interests of each party to get this right, namely, Israel, Saudi, Iran and the West. The West is war weary after Kuwait, Iraq twice, Afghanistan for a decade and Libya. Another adventure in the Islamic belt would be electoral death, something that did not immediately occur to Dave and the boy George, but then their political antenna are so attenuated they've hired an Australian to tell them what to think. So all the macho talk about 'real men want to go to Tehran' is just think tank grandstanding. The politics are wrong at the outset, the mission itself could end in military defeat, and heavy casualties could cause something close to civil revolt in the West. The Saudis are Sunni, like the Pakis, and are worried by a large Shia minority in their eastern provinces opposite Iran. The Saudis are also a family with a flag, and this is where Israel is taking a huge risk. The House of Saud is a gerontocracy that clings to progeny of its founder, and that can't last. What then? Saudi could easily undergo a revolution if the family dissolves into warring factions.

The suggestion that Israel could provide Al Saud with nukes is of course, mischievous. But if you are an Israeli planner and your sources suggest that a Paki bomb is about to be transferred to Saudi, what to do? Better an Israel bomb under joint Israeli-Saudi control than a Paki bomb under Saudi control, a situation about which Israel could do very little. Thus pre-empting a Paki bomb with an Israeli bomb is something that Israel would possibly consider.

6 December 2013 22:28  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Corrigan. Truth be told, half the crap we have to put up with from Islam is incited by these carpet-baggers.

Not at all, that man. One puts it to you that if it wasn’t for Israel taking up the time of these scoundrels in their plotting and scheming, they would be attending to us in the west, more so than they have been doing...





6 December 2013 22:54  
Blogger metzadá said...

We live in a world that hates Israel and Israel has a right to defend herself. If not Israelis Who's gonna do it? Ivan? Corrigan?Israel have a greater responsibility than anyone here can possibly fathom; to prevent another genocide of the Jewish people!

You weep for the Arabs, Corrigan and you curse the Israelis. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That the founding of Israel saved Jewish lives. And our Jewish existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, is because Hitler didn't get a chance to finish the job. You don't want to listen to the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want us to defend you against Jihadists, you need us to do so. Israelis use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending our homeland. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that we provide, and then questions the manner in which we provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand up to defend Israel. Either way, I don't give a damn about your anti-semitic propaganda!

6 December 2013 23:52  
Blogger carl jacobs said...

metzada

I fear you have seriously misjudged Corrigan. He has no desire to defend Israel. He thinks it a usurping mob of thieves devoid of any legitimacy. He would prefer that the Jews all depart 'Palestine' - if possible impaled on a stick. But he might grudgingly allow the survivors passage to any place not Ireland. Say Florida.

OK OK. He might protest and say that he supports a unitary state of Jews and Arabs. A distinction without a difference. For he has no idea how to create that unitary state. And when such a state should descend into mass slaughter he will surely say "That's what happens to thieving carpetbaggers."

carl

7 December 2013 01:51  
Blogger Ivan said...


metzada, the Israelis can defend themselves as long as they want and long may live and prosper. My concern is with the Christians. It is very clear that apart from the tardy Russians hardly anyone else cares for them. The lack of concern may come as a surprise to some who carrying on about shared Judeo-Christian values, expect some sort of quid pro quo from the Israelis. I was one of them too, until I saw the alacrity with which they abandoned the Christian SLA in South Lebanon in 2000. At that time fears were expressed for the thousand-odd men of that militia, not least within Israel itself, for their safety at the hands of the Hizballah. As it happened they were rehabilitated and apparently lead normal lives. We saw the indifference of the Israeli government towards the plight of Christians, on display recently again when their functionaries, Michael Oren, among them were calling for the swift demise of the Assad regime, who is the only succor of the Christians right now. Apparently the only consideration is the shadow play between the Israelis and the Iranians, all others, the safety of Christians, Allawites etc. are merely distractions. Which is why any policy consideration for the safety of the Christians must audited separately from Israeli interests.

7 December 2013 03:35  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

Hannah:"Besides which Saudi 'credibility' wouldn't last long if it were found out that they were getting nukes from the 'Zionists'. It is more logical for them to approach Pakistan a fellow Shia state who does have nuclear weapons [...]"

Saudi Arabia is Sunni, not Shia.

7 December 2013 04:09  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Inspector, you're assuming the scoundrels in question would have the energy to be bothered about us were they not being provoked by the Israelis. Maybe they would, but I seriously doubt it. In any event, if they were bothered about us, sans Israel, we'd just have to deal with it, wouldn't we? And as Machiavelli said, a state which defends itself will always be stronger than one which relies on mercenaries.

7 December 2013 09:04  
Blogger bluedog said...

Corrigan @ 0904, don't think the Israelis are the only people who upset them in the Middle East. There is deep seated hatred going back to the Crusades and more recently, well before Israel emerged as a hegemonial power to the humiliation of the Arabs and others.

Many years ago this communicant, just a pup, recalls being a guest at an elegant dinner party in Philadelphia PA. Also in attendance was an officer in the Shah's navy, in the US on a course with the USN. The Iranian's social function was as shaggor of an older American divorcee, a friend of the hostess. No, I was friendly with a niece of the hostess.

Anyway, as tame and innocent Brit I got a lesson in Middle-Eastern politics I'll never forget, and not a word about Israel. What Britain had apparently done in Persia/Iran and the Gulf with oil was enough to keep a whole evening simmering.

These people have burning desire to get even and when they say, 'The swords of the warriors of Islam shall be washed in the blood of the infidel', they mean it.

7 December 2013 12:01  
Blogger Len said...

I think it a rather dangerous occupation (if I might use that word)to set oneself up as a judge over Israel and to condemn them over any and every action they might take to defend themselves. Anti- semitism has always existed and has even been part of some Churches doctrine. Anti- semitism is a evil spiritual force.
Does this mean that the Israelis are perfect and everyone else is wrong?. Well no, not in every case.But is quite apparent that the Arab World want to 'remove Israel'from the map by whatever means possible and that no peace can ever exist between them because the Arabs do not want Israel to exist in any shape or form. Any ' peace talks'that happen are a 'charade' and only happen to keep public opinion on the side of the Arabs.
God has a plan for Israel and that plan will come to fruition one day(probably sooner than later)and all those who have stood in opposition will have proclaimed themselves as enemies of God.
(Not a position someone who claims to be a Christian should wish to find themselves in?.)



7 December 2013 12:59  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Dog, I don't doubt the "blood of the infidel" stuff you're talking about, but my point is that we'd be a whole lot better off manning up and facing off against any Muslim threat ourselves, rather than relying on a country which (quite rightly) has almost as much contempt for the west as the Muslims.

7 December 2013 15:21  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Corrigan. Around the turn of this century, there were so many ‘refugee’ muslim clerics in London that sections of the press routinely called the place Londistan.
Free from the ‘persecution’ of their native then hard line governments, they set about their Islamic work over here with gusto. It took the London bombings and 52 dead before anything was done about it.

As far as one knows, that particular outrage had nothing to do with the west's support of Israel. Infidel dogs that wish to hand over Israel to Islam are still infidel dogs, you see.

However, one does agree that defiance against these monsters should start and end on home soil. No more winning of hearts and minds in Afghanistan for example. The UK should follow the example of the Irish Republic. As you yourself walk alongside the Liffey talking the air, you will no doubt see foreign types walking with you. Some of them will be bona fide citizens of the Republic. But you can guarantee one thing – those eastern refugees taken in by the Irish state will be addressed as Doctor, or conduct some equally useful activity. Useful to the people of Ireland and the state. The rubbish who’ve ended up in Ireland eventually find their way to the UK to try their luck here.

God save Ireland ? Not necessary – they’re making an excellent job of saving themselves, and bloody good luck to them...

7 December 2013 16:06  
Blogger Hannah said...

Metzada

Well said!

7 December 2013 22:04  
Blogger Hannah said...

Danjo,

Grovel, thanks for pointing out that mistake.

7 December 2013 22:04  
Blogger Hannah said...

Ivan,

Israel is there to defend Jews, not Christians. Ask the Vatican or whatever about defending Christians.

7 December 2013 22:05  
Blogger Hannah said...

Hi Bluedog,

Interesting thoughts there. I don't have much of a come back for you, as there is much in your post of merit, logical thought, much to ponder over. Let's just hope that neither Saudi or Israel decided to take out Iran's hardwater reactor with nuclear weapons...

7 December 2013 22:34  
Blogger Len said...

Hannah,

'Israel is there to defend Jews, not Christians. Ask the Vatican or whatever about defending Christians'.
(Dont think I would want to go down that road!)
What a sad attitude,but one that reveals an attitude that only Jesus Christ can change.This is the tragedy that has beset the Jewish Nation for 2,000 yrs 'they knew not the time of their visitation'.

8 December 2013 14:00  
Blogger Hannah said...

Len,

'What a sad attitude'

As sad an attitude to the indifference that leaders of nominally Christian countries, such as America and Britain have as well,I guess. Israel has Laws to protect Christians living within its borders, which is more than they get in other parts of the middle eastern region.

8 December 2013 15:04  
Blogger Len said...

'Nominally Christian' just about sums it up.Which brings us back to H G`s original article who cares about Christians getting beheaded and 'Mother Superior Pelagia Sayyaf and 11 of her sisters were abducted at gunpoint from St Tecla Orthodox monastery and taken hostage by an army of "rebels", along with the orphans who were being fostered and cared for. But who cares?'.

Lets 'go past on the other side of the road'and pretend its not happening?.

After all Tom daleys come out!.

8 December 2013 16:05  
Blogger Hannah said...

Len,

You can make a difference and volunteer to join the Syrian Army and put your own life on the line. Is that not a fair enough suggestion?

PS- there is a difference between saying a state- Britain, Israel, America- should not carry our a military intervention and 'not caring' as a person. If you think I 'don't care about these people because they are Christians' than that is an incorrect assumption on your part.

8 December 2013 16:56  
Blogger Len said...

Hannah, 'Join the Syrian army?.'

What and shoot women and children as a sniper? .

Have you totally lost the plot?.

9 December 2013 10:45  
Blogger Chris said...

Love your writing as usual, blunt and brutal but kind and generous. Jesus-like.

Peace be with you.

16 January 2014 13:29  

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